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EL GUETTAR / Tunisia

Beitragvon Kuno » 22/11/2005, 16:48

Hier zuerst einmal ein paar Bilder - wer kennt die Geschichte dazu?

Hier zuerst ein paar Amerikaner, die in Deckung gehen, und eine ausgeschaltete deutsches PaK:
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Beitragvon Kuno » 22/11/2005, 16:50

Ein paar Textfragmente:

But, as usual, Eighth Army's greatest interest was the whereabouts of the three panzer divisions. The 15th Panzer Division, with only fifteen runners at this time, was in reserve behind XX Corps, much as at Mareth. The 10th Panzer Division, with fifty tanks, together with a heavy tank battalion of twenty-three tanks and Centauro Battle Group with ten, was opposite the Americans at Maknassy. And 21 Panzer Division with forty tanks was opposing the Americans at El Guettar, 50 miles south-west of Maknassy. The enemy's armour was thus dispersed, with the greater strength opposite the Americans, but it was all within one night's travel to any part of the front.

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But while two of the three regiments of 8 Armoured Brigade were held up in the area north of Kat es Satour, 3 Royal Tanks and part of KDG succeeded in pushing forward along the eastern side of Sebkret en Noual, and at 5.30 p.m. cut the road from Mahares to Maknassy and El Guettar at a point east of Rir er Rebaia, and took many prisoners and destroyed much MT. The Division's advance had in fact cut across the line of retreat of the German forces that had been facing the Americans at El Guettar and Maknassy, and had been too quick for some of the enemy. This advance of 3 Royal Tanks, and the earlier withdrawal of the enemy tanks, had been helped on the left of 2 NZ Division by the arrival of 2 Armoured Brigade from 1 Armoured Division, which, once through the gap at Akarit, had made good going. Its cavalry regiment (12 Lancers) took over part of the front being covered by KDG.

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9 April—to the Sfax-Faid Road
This advance penetrated into a gap between the right flank of 1 Italian Army (as represented by the German rearguards) and 10 and 21 Panzer Divisions, now collecting themselves after their withdrawal from Maknassy and El Guettar. It took the enemy by

Quelle: http://www.nzetc.org/tm/scholarly/tei-W ... e-022210-1
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Beitragvon Kuestenjaeger » 22/11/2005, 16:52

Kuno,eine zerstörte Pak in der Wüste,wer sollte da wohl ne Geschichte kennen?
Wieso muss das in El Guettar sein?
Wäre das nicht besser bei dem Pak-Thread?
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Beitragvon Kuno » 22/11/2005, 17:12

Da war ein kleiner Begleittext beim Ebayangebot. Dieser hat nach EL GUETTAR verwiesen. Ich meine natürlich auch nicht die Story ebendieser PaK sondern von EL GUETTAR...
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Beitragvon Kuno » 22/11/2005, 17:21

Hier noch ein US-Foto (auf dem Link gibt es sie auch in gross)

http://www.army.mil/cmh-pg/matrix/1ID/1ID-Photos.htm
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Beitragvon Kuestenjaeger » 22/11/2005, 17:21

Ich weiss,ich hab das Foto ja auch gezogen.
Darum wunderte es mich,das dieses Pak Foto hier gelandet ist.
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Beitragvon Kuno » 22/11/2005, 17:24

...war mir eigentlich sicher über den Begleittext...
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Beitragvon DAKKER » 7/10/2007, 16:59

El Guettar again. Either the US-army had lots of hills occupied or the same dugouts have been photographed again and again. Who knows the extend of the fortifications?
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El Guettar.

Beitragvon landser162 » 14/7/2008, 23:01

Hello to all people :D; here something more.....................

The cry of the panther (tanks-destroyers in North Afrika).

Company B, 701st TD Battalion was the first unit to see action against the enemy in Tunisia, making initial contact on 22 November 1942 and continuing in action throughout the campaign. The company with a reconnaissance platoon attachedfunctioned almost entirely as a separate unit, at times even being broken down into separate platoons

El Guettar.

That same afternoon word was received through the French warning system that an enemyy tank column was approaching Gafsa from Gabés, the enemy stronghold in the Southeast, with the, evident intention of retaking’ Gafsa (Figure 1). Despite the fact that everyone needed some, sleep and rest, it was decided that the terrain around Gafsa afforded little opportunity for a successful battle against tanks, so at 14:30 the company moved out in the, following march order – reconnaissance platoon, one 75-mm SP platoon, command group, the second 75-mm SP platoon, and followed by the 37 mm SP platoon.

The unit approached El Guettar in an atmosphere of complete serenity, wanting to pick good firing positions and then, by surprise and massed fire, achieved a quick victory.

The main body of the company was just entering El Guettar (Figure 3) and the ¼ tons of the reconnaissance platoon were topping a rise just cast of town when facing them over the top of a second rise were the enemy tanks.

Surprise at such an abrupt meeting did not stop the reconnaissance from reporting the tanks’ position and range, even though one jeep driver spilled his passengers and overturned his jeep in his hurry to get some solid African dirt between him and the muzzle of the lead tank. The man managed to get back safely.

The fight was on. Based on the reconnaissance reports, the company commander sent one platoon (A in Figure 3) to the left of the road and accompanied the other (B in Figure 3) to the right. The left platoon got four tanks immediately while the right platoon scouted the oasis for any more that might be hidden there. Moving to the edge (C in Figure 3), they attacked six tanks that tried to swing south; none was knocked out, but all were later picked up, out of fuel and damaged, a short distance on the way back to Gabes.

During all this action the 37 mm SP platoon had been kept in reserva and was sent out around the salt lake south of the oasis (D in Figure 3) to prevent the company from being outflanqued and also to act as rear guard. At 17:00 hours the company was reformed and went back to Gafsa.

Source: Panther vs Panzer. MAJOR GILBERT A. ELLMANN, Field Artillery. Military Review.

Cheers. Landser 8).
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