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Beitragvon Kuno » 18/3/2008, 06:14

@ DAK collector1;

I have never seen a "Wehrpass" as a whole. Since you were posting many pages of such personal documents in different threads - would it be possible that you present one as a "full scan" here?
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Beitragvon DAKcollector1 » 18/3/2008, 06:32

Hello,

Sure. Got a nice Pazner Rgt. 5 WP and will post for you tomorrow.

C.
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Beitragvon Kuno » 18/3/2008, 06:40

Seems you have ALL Wherpässe left by the DAK.

May I ask you where they came from? Collected from allover the world or was it a "Sale" of some sort of gouvernmental institution which held it in its archives for a while, maybe as a leftover of a POW Camp?
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Beitragvon DAKcollector1 » 18/3/2008, 07:23

Hallo,

I buy from freinds and collectors all over. Most of the sellers are located in Germany. I pay a VERY good price for DAK soldbuchs, werpasses, orders & awards, uniforms, shoulder boards, hats, helmets, etc.

Becuase I pay good prices, and NEVER cheat anyone, most people send an e-mail to me with their offerings. Just bought a Heer Flak Artillerie (2./ Heer Fla. Art. 617) soldbuch and a Heer Infanterie (Heer Afrika Rgt. 361) soldbuch from two guys in Germany. Both are rarer units. Am looking at two more now.

Please ask me if anyone has questions about how much an item is worth! I am happy to help you whether I buy or not.

Will add more photos from this Panzer Rgt. 5 WP tomorrow!

Christopher
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Beitragvon Kuno » 18/3/2008, 07:27

Was such document always with the individual soldier or was it collected in the "office" of a company or a larger unit then?
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Beitragvon DAKcollector1 » 18/3/2008, 07:33

Hello,

I believe that the wehrpass was kept with the Kompanie office while the soldbuch was carried with the soldat at all times.

Many DAK wehrpasses were captured during Operation Crusader when several Kompanie HQ's were overrun by British, Australian and New Zealand forces.

Christopher
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Beitragvon Kuno » 18/3/2008, 08:03

Assume that you are right. Remebering my army service, we had the "Dienstbuechlein" (what looked quite comparable to the Wehrpass you have shown above) with us at home and everytime we went to the army we had to hand it over to the KP (our expression for the Kompanie HQ)...
...to receive it back at the last day (with the hopefully correct number of add. service days mentioned.)

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So; if such Wehrpass came into enemy hands - did this mean that the individual soldiers "identity" was lost then? How did they issue a now Wehrpass; most of the information was stamped in or written by hand. I cannot imagine that there was an updated copy somewhere...
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Beitragvon DAKcollector1 » 18/3/2008, 08:28

Hello,

Sounds very interesting! Which armee were you with? What did you do?

This WP is a Zweischrift. It must have been recreated rather early-on as most entries were made as time went on. Usually, the second issue WP's are marked in red letters on the front cover. I imagine that they were recreated by using their soldbuchs (which have almost identical unit, award, etc. entries) and other records/files and perhaps the statements from the unit commanders / administrative staff.

I have several 2nd issue WP's. I think they can be worth almost the same as the "original issue", except if it was entirely recreated after the soldier's death and then sent home to his family. I have on like that to a soldat who died at El Adem (Gazala/Tobruk). Still a VERY nice piece (3. Krad.Schtzn. / Rgt. 115)

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Beitragvon Kuno » 18/3/2008, 09:19

Which armee were you with? What did you do?


A) Was with the Swiss Army
B) Did as less ass possible and tried t enjoy the time ;-)
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Beitragvon DAKcollector1 » 18/3/2008, 09:30

Sounds GOOD!
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Beitragvon byron » 18/3/2008, 15:38

That is a very interesting collection DAKcollector 1.

I have only one Soldbuch from the "Kriegsmarine" Admiral Ägäis with the Felpost Nr. 44 550.
How much may one pay for such a document?
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Beitragvon valkyrie » 14/7/2008, 01:13

byron hat geschrieben:That is a very interesting collection DAKcollector 1.

I have only one Soldbuch from the "Kriegsmarine" Admiral Ägäis with the Felpost Nr. 44 550.
How much may one pay for such a document?


Hi byron,

The value of the Soldbuch depends on several variables. Does it have a photo? What is its general condition? Are all pages present? Rank, awards, military occupation, battle entries, etcetera? :)
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Beitragvon byron » 14/7/2008, 19:26

Yes, everything you mentioned is there, thr book is complete.
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