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Individual fighting positions

Beitragvon neil » 3/2/2008, 10:47

As some of you know I like Google Earth, I've been scanning the areas of North Africa for a couple of years now. I have found hundreds of Individual fighting positions [IFPs] and vehicle defenses scattered where units had been according to period maps.

My question is...

Why were positions almost always in the open? I can see it when your in the wide open desert, but in the middle of a low lying area with escarpments on each side? What ever happened to holding the high ground. I have found only two places where a defensive position was up on top covering a path up or down an escarpment. Most all others are in the wide open down on the bottom. I'm not seeing any strategy here, It's like they just stopped and dug in where ever they were.

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What am I missing??
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Beitragvon Kuno » 3/2/2008, 12:08

I think that your assumption; that they just dug in where they had stopped is the correct one. All else would make just no sense.
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Beitragvon mbberlin » 3/2/2008, 17:18

What are the real dimensions of these IFPs?
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Beitragvon neil » 3/2/2008, 21:31

Using the measuring device for GE, these look to be about 30 ft. across, from alt. 1600 ft. It's 27 miles south south west of El Alamein, at the edge of the Qattara depression.
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Beitragvon mbberlin » 3/2/2008, 21:39

Round about 9 meters... Are you really sure, that these are fighting positions?
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Beitragvon mbberlin » 3/2/2008, 21:52

May be a former SAM-Missile configuration?
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Beitragvon neil » 3/2/2008, 21:52

In this pic you can see the vehicle revetment to the lower right, this is consistent with other military positions found, and it is in the right area.

Proof positive...no.


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Beitragvon mbberlin » 3/2/2008, 21:55

That looks really like a SAM positon to me. The vehicle reventment could have been for the mobile radar station.
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Beitragvon neil » 3/2/2008, 21:56

Possible of course, but it looks older to me.
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Beitragvon mbberlin » 3/2/2008, 22:04

May be these guys can tell you anything about this "may be missile".site: http://geimint.blogspot.com/2007/07/s-1 ... lysis.html
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Beitragvon Kuno » 3/2/2008, 22:06

Would assist the SAM theory in this case. See the traces of the bulldozer-shield used to erect the circular dams. Such was probably not used for just a shortterm dug in of a mobile unit.
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Beitragvon mbberlin » 3/2/2008, 22:18

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Beitragvon neil » 3/2/2008, 22:27

oh, I see your point! This would also explain the low lying area, in this case.
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Beitragvon mbberlin » 3/2/2008, 22:37

Yes. I'm sure there some more of these sites in this area.

Very interesting!
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Beitragvon neil » 3/2/2008, 23:49

Here is the same kind of layout 9km southwest of Halfaya Pass.

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